Les grandes unités coloniales en Indo

Bonjour,

une question me taraude depuis des années : que sont devenues les grandes unités du corps expéditionnaires (9° DIC, GM/2° DB, 3° DIC) à leur arrivée en Indochine. Je ne crois pas connaître d'ouvrage qui en reparle après leur arrivée en tant que corps constitué. Sont elles dissoutes, renommées, morcelées ?

Question subsidiaire : les Compagnies Coloniales de Garnison ou de Quartier Général telles la 71e CQG ou la CCGH ont-elles été formées à partir de ces grandes unités ou existaient-t-elles auparavant?

Merci d'avance pour vos informations.

Cordialement
Bruno

Bonsoir,

visiblement cette question n'intéresse que moi ou alors elle est passée inaperçue pendant les fêtes ...
merci si vous avez des infos

Cordialement
Bruno LOUIS-CALIXTE

Hi,

The info that I have on this topic may answer your questions. If you do have any questions about the Material below, please ask.

9th division d'infanterie coloniale,
11/45,AO = Saigon, Nha Trang, My Tho, Can Tho.
Replaced DB 2nd Armored Division & BM/5th RIC at Ben Cat, Bien Hoa
Moved toTonkin.
11/1/46, Tonkin, 9th division d'infanterie coloniale HQ became Tonkin & Laos HQ.

3rd division d'infanterie coloniale,
8/16/45, 3rd DIC formed from 1st DCEO.
1/46 thru 2/46, Replaced 9th DIC in Cochin China. Division HQ became Cochin China & Cambodia HQ.
9/12/46, renamed Staff of French Troops in Indochina South (FTIS).
3/9/49, renamed Staff of Franco-Vietnamese Troops in South (FFVS).
5/6/51, renamed Staff of Land Forces South Vietnam (FTSV).
8/11/54, disbanded.

1st Brigade d'Extreme-Orient,
12/1/43, Madagascar, Creation of the brigade, under the command of Colonel Young, at camp Moramanga in Madagascar, with reinforcements from:
the BM 10 AEF,
Senegalese battalion 1,
Senegalese Battalion 2,
II/Regiment de Marche Indochina (RMI) from AOF,
cadres from AFN and recruits from Madagascar and Reunion.
1/1/45, Madagascar, Creation of the:
1 BMSEO from 1 BS
2 BMSEO from BM 10
3 BMSEO from II / RMI
12/28/45, 1st BEO Command Company assigned to 1st BEO.
Early 1946, Landed in Saigon, under Command was:
3/31/47, Annam, 1st BEO disbanded and 1st BEO Command Company became Annam HQ.


Regards

 BKLX a dit   que sont devenues les grandes unités du corps expéditionnaires (9° DIC, GM/2° DB, 3° DIC) à leur arrivée en Indochine. Je ne crois pas connaître d'ouvrage qui en parle après leur arrivée en tant que corps constitué. Sont elles dissoutes, renommées, morcelées ?[/
Le G M 2 B a été dissous en Indochine dans sa totalité  en Octobre 1946 le personnel étant en fin de séjour de un an.
Les matériels et armement ont été remis à d'autres unités qui elles restaient sur le territoire.
L'effectif restant après les pertes aux combat a été rapatrié . Tous, survivants, blessés, malades et morts au combat ont bien mérité de la Patrie. Honneur à eux tous.
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Hi,

Try this version.

9 DIC:
End - 11/1/46, MS of 9 DIC
11/2/46 - 8/11/54, Becomes TFIN
Then EMde The operational area of ​​Tonkin,
Finally, the North Vietnam

3 DIC:
10/45 to 9/12/46, MS of 3 DIC
9/13/46 to 3/9/49, Becomes TFIS EM
3/10/49 - 5/5/51, Becomes the FFVS
5/6/51 to 8/11/54, Becomes the FTVS

1st Brigade of Extreme Orient,  
Early 1946, Landed in Saigon,
3/31/47, Annam, 1st BEO disbanded and 1st BEO Command Company became Annam HQ.
8/1/47 - 10/9/49, EMdes TFCA
10/10/49 - 08/11/54, Becomes the FTCVP area
Then the land forces of Vietnam Center.

The information on the 3 DIC & the 9 DIC comes from: INDOCHINE UNITS (Period from September 16, 1945 to August 11, 1954)
The information on the 1 BEO comes from: FRENCH GROUND FORCE ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR COUNTERREVOLUTIONARY WARFARE BETWEEN 1945 AND 1962 


The direct quote from the Author with footnote follows: Indeed, the Far East Expeditionary Corps was disbanded in December 1946 and its assets used to create the headquarters of the Far East Ground Forces, the territorial command for Indochina. Expeditionary Corps also had three divisions headquarters, which became the basis for the reestablished Cochin-China, Tonkin, and Annam territorial headquarters.34
34.Erwan Bergot, Gendarmes au Combat, Indochina 1945-1955 (Paris: Presses de la Cite, 1987), 285, indicates that the Annam headquarters was also formed by the Far East Brigade, while the 3d Colonial Infantry Division cadred the Cochin- China headquarters and the 9th Colonial Infantry Division, the Tonkin headquarters.  

If anyone has questions, please ask. If there are corrections / additions I would welcome them.

Regards

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Hi,

No worries Andrien. I try to have valid information before posting on line. A process which sadly is not shared by many of the on line posters today.

Regards

Bonjour,

Dans les états de service de mon grand-père qui faisait partie du 23ème RIC (un constituant de la 9ème DIC) il est indiqué qu'il est au 1/23ème RIC.